Between 1525-1611 A.D. six Major English Bibles (Tyndale, Coverdale, Matthews, The Great, Geneva, and The Bishops) were produced - all of which were based on the Greek Text known as the Byzantine Text (now known as the Received Text or Textus Receptus) in the New Testament, and the Hebrew Text (known as the Massoretic Text) in the Old Testament.
William Tyndale completed translating the New Testament and most of the Old Testament before he was murdered by the government (strangled to death and then burned). The Coverdale Bible was the first complete Bible in English based on a ‘Greek Text’ in the New Testament, and a Hebrew Text in the Old Testament. John Wycliffe’s earlier English Translation (1382 A.D.) was based on some of the Old Latin manuscripts and the Latin Vulgate, and was ‘revised’ by John Purvey to bring it more in line with Jerome’s Latin Vulgate. Matthew’s Bible was a combination of the best from Tyndale and Coverdale. The Great Bible was a Revision of Matthew’s. The Geneva Bible was the Bible of the Puritan’s (and was the most popular Bible with the common people until the AV1611 - KJB). The Bishop’s Bible was an “Official” Bible put out by the Church of England in an attempt to replace the popular Geneva (which it never did).
Six English Bibles produced in approximately 85 years, and then the crowning achievement: The AUTHORIZED VERSION (1611 A.D.), The Seventh! What did God say in Psalms 12:6-7?
Psalms 12:6 The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
7 Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.
The King James Bible was the seventh English Bible, and it was translated in seven years. Do you think that’s just a coincidence? Think about that for a while!
From 1611 through the 1930’s the Bible that is now called the King James Bible was simply known as “The Holy Bible”. In the 1700’s a few of its critics (scholars) began to call it the “Authorized Version” (hence the name “AV 1611”), and by the 1800’s most Bible scholars and critics referred to “The Holy Bible” as the “Authorized Version”.
The only changes that that have taken place within the AV1611 [The King James Bible] from 1611 up to the 1940’s were:
1. Corrections of typographical errors (1629)
2. Standardization of the language (i.e. changes in spelling and punctuation: Final - 1769)
3. Regularization (e.g. consistent use of italics, etc. - 1769)
There were NO CHANGES, or ADDITIONS, or SUBTRACTIONS TO THE TEXT {i.e. WORDS}!
Up until the middle of the 20th century no Publisher ever dared to CHANGE THE TEXT of “The Holy Bible”, although they started to produce multiple versions in English from a handful of inferior (corrupt) Greek & Hebrew manuscripts, very different from the Greek & Hebrew manuscripts from which the King James Bible was translated.
The "HOLY BIBLE" (now known as the AV1611 or The King James Bible) was THE STANDARD BIBLE of the English speaking people of the world from the early 1600’s up until the early 1900’s. It was the FINAL AUTHORITY in all matters of faith and practice amongst nearly all English speaking Christians for over 300 years. During that entire period of time no other “bible” even came close to challenging its authoritative position.
Sometime after the introduction of the “new” English Translations (“The “Revised Version” of 1881 in England, and “The American Standard Version” of 1901 in America – both of which failed miserably) the Publishers of the “new” Translations began to call "The Holy Bible" (AV1611) - “The King James Version”. And since the 1950’s these Publishers have gradually (under the cover of “helps” and “clarification”) been introducing more and more CHANGES, either to the actual TEXT (the words) of the King James Bible, or by the subtle introduction of suggestions (always from “bible scholars”) implying that there are errors in the TEXT of the King James Bible, and supplying different words other than those in the text, or stating that certain words or verses do not belong in the text.
Since the introduction of the failed Revised Version (1881 - 1885) and the failed American Standard Version (1901), there have been over 120 “versions” of the “bible” (in English) that have come out on the market - $$$ (An unenviable “record” - unmatched in any ten (10) other languages in the world!) It is now to the point, that with very few exceptions, most people have no idea WHERE the words of God are, or WHAT the words of God say. The confusion is nearly complete, and that is why when I buy a King James Bible I make every effort to insure that it is indeed a genuine KING JAMES BIBLE, and NOT some “KNOCK-OFF”, pretending to be a King James Bible – like the NEW Scofield Bible; or the NEW King James Bible; or the numerous “Study” King James Bibles with “corrections” on every page.
The Holy Bible is unlike any other book on earth. According to its own testimony it contains “the words of eternal life” [John 6:63, 68]; it makes the astounding claim to have been “given by inspiration of God” [2 Timothy 3:16]; it also says that God will preserve His words [Psalms 12:6-7] Jesus said that “Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.” [Matthew 24:35; Mark 13:31; Luke 21:33] Because of this testimony, and many others, the words within the Bible are not to be tampered with. Within the pages of the Bible God commands men NOT to CHANGE His words. We are commanded NOT to ADD to them, NOR are we to SUBTRACT from them [Deuteronomy 4:2; Proverbs 30:5; Revelation 22:18-19] All 120 “New” bibles (in English) available today do all three!
SOME INTERESTING FACTS ABOUT THE BIBLE
#1. THE BIBLE {The "Books"} = SCRIPTURES = WRITINGS
There are well over 12,000 manuscripts in at least a dozen languages (over 5,500 Greek mss in the New Testament alone) to prove the existence of the Bible. No other book in existence has near that amount of existing manuscripts extending over such a long period of time.
#2. THE BIBLE IS THE OLDEST BOOK {In Continuous Use} IN THE WORLD
The Bible has been in continuous use (approximately 3,500 years) since books were first written.
#3. THE BIBLE IS BY FAR THE MOST {Continuously} POPULAR BOOK IN THE WORLD
The Bible is the most widely read book ever published.
#4. THE BIBLE IS THE ONLY BOOK:
The Bible is the only book with a clear, understandable, and truthful record of the creation; the great flood; history; and end of the world.
#5. THE BIBLE IS THE ONLY BOOK:
That gives mankind a reason for living. [1 Corinthians 6:20; Ephesians 2:19-22; 1 Peter 2:5]
#6. THE BIBLE IS THE ONLY BOOK:
That can solve the riddle of the crazy days we are living in today. [2 Thessalonians 2:1-12; 1 Timothy 4:1-3; 2 Timothy 3: 1-13, 4:3-4, 2 Peter 2:1-22, 3:1-7, Jude 17-19]
#7. THE BIBLE IS THE ONLY BOOK:
To accurately foretell the future in detail and never have a single prophecy fail.
Christ’s 1st. Coming: [Isaiah 7:14, 40:3-5; Micah 5:2; Jeremiah; 31:15; Malachi 3:1]
Israel’s Rebirth: (Ezekiel 37:1-14; Hosea 9:10; Joel 1:7; Matthew 24:32-34; Mark. 13:28-30,; Luke 21:29-32]
Christ’s 2nd. Coming: [Matthew 24:1-51; Mark 13:1-37; Luke 21:1-38,; Acts 1:9 -11, 3:18-21; 1 Corinthians 15:51-58; 1Thessalonians 4:13-18, 5:1-10, 2 Thessalonians 2:1-12]
{There are over 1,000 prophecies in The Holy Bible – Most still to come}
#8. THE BIBLE - WRITTEN ENTIRELY BY JEWS
{Luke, the physician being the only possible exception} [Deuteronomy 8:3, 30:10-14, 32:1-4; Isaiah 45:23, 55:10-11; Ezekiel 3:10; Romans 3:1-2]
The Holy Bible = AV1611 = The King James Bible
The Holy Bible has 66 Books. {39 Books – Old Testament & 27 Books – New Testament}
THE OLD TESTAMENT CANON {Canon = a measuring rod or rule.}
The Old Testament Canon is the Jewish Standard for the Scriptures and simply means that these are all the Books of Scripture that the Jews recognized and accepted as being The Holy Word of God at the time of Christ’s first coming.
THE OLD TESTAMENT = 39 Books
The Jews divided their Scriptures (the Christian’s “Old Testament”) into 3 Sections: THE LAW, THE PROPHETS, & THE WRITINGS
THE BOOKS OF THE LAW
The Five Books of The Law - Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, & Deuteronomy
The Law was given to Moses [Exodus 24: 3-4; 12]
The Law was written by Moses [Deuteronomy 31:24; Mark 2:26; John 5:46; John 7:19]
After Moses wrote The Law, what happened to these writings?
THE LAW WAS ENTRUSTED TO THE PRIESTS [Deuteronomy 31:1-13; Deuteronomy 31: 24-26]
{The Priests (from the tribe of Levi) were given the responsibility for Copying and Preserving the “Oracles of God, i.e. The Scriptures}
THE BOOKS KNOWN AS THE PROPHETS
Written by the men who held the official Office of Prophet to Israel.
A Prophet was a man from the Nation of Israel, called by God to serve Him, who worked in the Jewish Nation {preaching, prophesizing, warning, admonishing, reproving, and rebuking}. Either he or his scribe wrote a record of his ministry to Israel.
The Books called The Prophets were divided into two sections:
THE FORMER PROPHETS - Joshua, Judges, 1 & 2 Samuel, 1 & 2 Kings
THE LATTER PROPHETS - Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Hosea, Joel, Amos, Obadiah, Jonah, Micah, Nahum, Habakkuk, Zephaniah, Haggai, Zechariah, Malachi
THE BOOKS KNOWN AS THE WRITINGS
The Books of the Writings were written by men who were inspired by God, but did not hold the position or Office of Prophet. David and Solomon were inspired, but they were Kings. Job, though inspired, was not a prophet. Even Daniel, who prophesied, and whom we (Christians) hold to be a Prophet, did not labor among the Nation of Israel as the Prophets did before and after him.
Job, Psalms, Proverbs, Ecclesiastes, Song of Solomon, Ruth, Lamentations, Esther, Daniel, Ezra, Nehemiah, 1 Chronicles, 2 Chronicles
THE LAW, THE PROPHETS, & THE WRITINGS make up what we (Christians) call:
THE OLD TESTAMENT CANON {Canon = a measuring rod or rule}
NEW TESTAMENT = NEW COVENANT {27 Books}
{NEW TESTAMENT CANON - Canon = a measuring rod or rule}
While the Old Testament took over 1500 years to write, The New Testament was written in approximately 60 years. It has been said that:
“The New is in the Old contained, while the Old is by the New explained.”
And again:
“The New is in the Old concealed, while the Old is by the New revealed.”
When a comparison is made between the two Testaments we discover some amazing similarities between the first three chapters of Genesis and the last three chapters of Revelation.
OLD TESTAMENT NEW TESTAMENT
(Begins) (Ends)
In a Garden In a Garden
First Creation A “New” Creation
Paradise – Lost Paradise - Restored
Promise of a Redeemer Redemption Perfected
Tree 0f Life – Fruit NOT to be eaten Tree of Life – Fruit to be eaten
The Devil Victorious The Devil Vanquished
Sorrow, Sin, Sickness, “No more death, neither sorrow
Crying, Pain, and nor crying, neither shall there
Death be any pain: . . .” [Revelation 21:4]
Man & Woman Men and Women welcomed
Driven Out by GOD as Children!
The Bible clearly reveals that it will be GOD that will Restore All Things – NOT Man!
Who wrote the New Testament? {Only Eight Men}
The Men The Books
Matthew [Matthew]
Mark [Mark]
Luke [Luke & Acts - Possibly the only Gentile to write Scripture]
John [John, 1 John, 2 John, 3 John & Revelation]
James [James]
Peter [1 Peter & 2 Peter]
Jude [Jude]
Paul [Romans, 1 Corinthians, 2 Corinthians, Galatians, Ephesians, Philippians, Colossians, 1Thessalonians, 2Thessalonians,
1Timothy, 2Timothy, Titus, Philemon, and possibly Hebrews]
A SHORT "SYNOPSIS" OF THE NEW TESTAMENT CANON
The Four Gospels reveal the 4-fold earthly ministry of The Lord Jesus Christ as:
MATTHEW MARK LUKE JOHN
Presents Christ as Presents Christ as Presents Christ as Presents Christ as
The King The Servant The Man GOD
[Jeremiah 23:5-6] [Zechariah 3:8] [Zechariah 6:12] [Isaiah 4:2]
Outside of the Four Gospels, the rest of the New Testament is simply a {God "Inspired"} commentary on the Lord Jesus Christ’s MINISTRY: His Ministry here on earth (His Life; His Death; His Resurrection); His Ministry since the Resurrection; His Relationship to the church and to the believer; and His promised triumphal Return to rule the world. The Books of Acts, The Epistles, and Revelation were written to explain WHY the Lord Jesus Christ came; WHY He did WHAT He did; and WHY and HOW He is coming back to set up His Kingdom.
Not until God called the Apostle Paul and revealed His perfect will to him (the “mysteries of God" – 1Corinthians 4:1), did men know the full meaning of the Lord Jesus Christ’s Death; His Shed Blood; and His Resurrection (known as “The Atonement”).
QUESTIONS ABOUT CHAPTERS & VERSES IN THE BIBLE
#1. Was the Bible written with chapters and verses already?
#2. Who divided the Bible into chapters and verses?
#3. Why are some verses from the Old Testament quoted slightly different in the New Testament?
Answer to #1. The books which compose our Bible were, when first written, not broken up into chapters and verses, as they are today. Each book was separate and the letters ran together continuously throughout the book. At first the words were written without spaces between them; then came spaces at certain intervals to indicate a pause; then came spaces between words and a dot to indicate a pause; then came, in succession, commas, colons, interrogation points, and systematic punctuation. Accents and breathing were introduced in about the 7th or 8th century, and were perfected gradually with the use of the minuscule text.
Answer to #2. Old Testament: The division into verses is believed to be quite early and can be traced back to the early centuries of church history. The standard division of the Old Testament into verses which has come down to our own day was fixed by the Massoretic family of Ben Ashur about 900 A.D. This Hebrew text is known as the "Massoretic" text and is the Hebrew text that was the basis of the Authorized Version, now known as the King James Bible.
Answer to #2. New Testament: Very early in church history New Testament manuscripts were divided into sections, or paragraphs. These sections were usually much smaller than our chapters and larger than our verses. Sometime before 1228 Stephen Langdon, at one time - archbishop of Canterbury, divided the Bible into chapters. Modern chapter divisions were introduced into the Latin Vulgate in 1456, and into the Greek Testaments ("Textus Receptus") from 1516 onward. The modern verse divisions were first made by Robert Stephannus (Stephens) of Paris, a printer, who divided the New Testament into verses for the 4th edition of his Greek Testament. The first entire Bible in which these chapter and verse divisions were used was Stephen's edition of the Latin Vulgate (1555). The first English Bible to have both the chapter and verse divisions was the Geneva Bible (1560, the Pilgrim's Bible) which was the immediate predecessor to the Authorized Version (1611), now known as the King James Bible.
It should be noted that the chapter and verse divisions are convenient for reference and quotation purposes, but I do not believe that they are "inspired" as the words of the Bible are.
(This information and much more can be found in: "General Biblical Introduction" by H. S. Miller or "The Books and the Parchments" by F. F. Bruce.)
Answer to #3. This is the most difficult question to answer, but I will try: Since God is the author of all of the Holy Scriptures:
2Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
3:17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
I believe that He has the right, as any author does, to quote His words in any way that He so chooses. {I do this with my writings all of the time.}
Please note that the men who wrote the New Testament were "inspired" of God to write the words (which continued to retain the original “inspiration”) and make quotations under the Holy Spirit's guiding, and that it was God who led them to quote passages out of the Old Testament as they did. Although there may be minor differences between an Old Testament passage and the New Testament quote of that passage, God never omits any words of import, unlike the modern English translations that have numerous word changes, omissions, and additions, not to mention various places where whole verses are missing.
IN REGARDS TO YE, YOU & THEE, THOU, THY, THINE
The use of the pronouns YE, you (plural) and thee, thou, thy, thine (singular) in the King James Bible greatly helps a believer in “rightly dividing the word of truth”. For instance: The King James Bible translators never used the word YE in the singular case. Every time the word YE show’s up in the King James Bible, it is always used to denote a plural pronoun (in reference to - more than one person).
“YE, pronoun. The nominative plural of the second person, of which thou is the singular. But the two words have no radical connection. Ye is now used only in the sacred and solemn style. In common discourse and writing, you is exclusively used. But YE are washed, but YE are sanctified. 1 CORINTHIANS 6.”
YOU, pronoun Yu. You has been considered as in the plural only, and is so treated in the Saxon grammar. But from the Belgic dialect, it appears to be in the singular as well as the plural, and our universal popular usage, in applying it to a single person with a verb in the singular number, is correct. Yourself is in the singular number. 1. The pronoun of the second person, in the nominative or objective case. In familiar language, it is applied to an individual, as thou is in the solemn style. In the plural, it is used in the solemn style in the objective case. He that despiseth you, despiseth me. Luke 10. Webster’s 1828 Dictionary.
And again in reference to the words thee, thou, thy, thine (singular) – The King James Bible translators always used these words in the singular case (in reference to a single person or nation, etc.). Knowing the distinction between thee, thou, thy, thine (singular) and YE, you (plural) helps the Bible believer to distinguish WHO is being addressed.
THOU, pron. in the obj. thee. The second personal pronoun, in the singular number; the pronoun which is used in addressing persons in the solemn style.
Art thou he that should come? Matthew 11.
I will fear no evil, for thou art with me. Psalms 23.
Thou is used only in the solemn style, unless in very familiar language, and by the Quakers.
THOU, v.t. To treat with familiarity.
If thou thouest him some thrice, it shall not be amiss.
THOU, v.i. To use thou and thee in discourse.
THEE, pron. obj. case of thou.
THEE, v.i. To thrive; to prosper.
THINE, pronominal adj. Thy; belonging to thee; relating to thee; being the property of thee. It was formerly used for thy, before a vowel.
Then thou mightest eat grapes thy fill, at thine own pleasure. Deuteronomy 32.
But in common usage, thy is now used before a vowel in all cases.
The principal use of thine now is when a verb is interposed between this word and the noun to which it refers. I will not take any thing that is thine. Thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory.
In the following passage, thine is used as a substitute for thy righteousness.
I will make mention of thy righteousness, even of thine only. Psalms 71.
In some cases, it is preceded by the sign of the possessive case, like nouns, and is then also to be considered as a substitute.
If any of thine be driven out to the utmost parts of heaven - Deuteronomy 30.
It is to be observed that thine, like thou, is used only in the solemn style. In familiar and common language, your and yours are always used in the singular number as well as the plural.
THY, a. contracted from thine, or from some other derivative of thou. It is probable that the pronoun was originally thig, thug or thuk, and the adjective thigen. See Thou.
Thy is the adjective of thou, or a pronominal adjective, signifying of thee, or belonging to thee, like tuus in Latin. It is used in the solemn and grave style.
These are thy works, parent of good. *
Here is a bit o good old biblical doctrine for you [British Israelers] from the Jew you deny is a Jew.
Rom 3:1¶ What advantage then hath the Jew? or what profit is there of circumcision?
Rom 3:10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
Rom 3:11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.
Rom 3:12 They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.
Rom 3:15 Their feet are swift to shed blood: (sound like you guys who want to wipe people out huh?)
Rom 3:16 Destruction and misery are in their ways:
Rom 3:17 And the way of peace have they not known:
Rom 3:18 There is no fear of God before their eyes.
Rom 3:19 Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.
Rom 3:20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law [is] the knowledge of sin.
Rom 3:22 Even the righteousness of God [which is] by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:
Rom 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
Rom 3:24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
Rom 3:25 Whom God hath set forth [to be] a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
Rom 3:26 To declare, , at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.
Rom 3:27 ¶ Where [is] boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.
Rom 3:28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.
Rom 3:29 Is he the God of the Jews only?is he not also of the Gentiles? Yes, of the Gentiles also:
Rom 3:30 Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith.
Rom 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.
Friday, 23 November 2018
Thursday, 22 November 2018
Gratis on the question: Christianity, is it a real faith or the greatest hoax
All of the oracles of God where given to the Jew first, count yourself lucky, God in Jewish form, died on a cross (murdered by his own people) so that you may could be grafted into the olive branch AKA Israel. You only make yourselves look like poor deluded brainwashed homosexual Hitler youth when you rail against the Jew the way you all do.
The Lord has clearly led me here to talk some sense into you all he also seems to have placed a bit of soft spot in my heart for you all too, which is truly miraculous, I'm sure you will agree.
Written by Paul a Jew about the Jews to the Jews and the Gentiles
Written By Paul a Jew, about Moses, a Jew, about the Commandments for the Jews.
Written by an unknown Author (Possibly Paul) but definitely a Jew/Hebrew for the Jews/Hebrews. You may not eat pork but your spiritual meat is clearly taken out of a rotten dead carcass and you drink from a broken cistern.
I'm not here for "debates" I am here to speak truth from the oracles of God given the the Jew first and then the gentile and to spread the knowledge of the truth and the power unto salvation.
Some Jews believed in Christ has the Messiah most did not and have been blind unto this day. The Jew is no different to any other race who have rejected Christ. The WORLD is blinded and there will be and even greater strong delusion to come.
Anti Jewish rhetoric is from an anti-Christ spirit and it will repel people from the joy and the glad tiding of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. We must be about our Fathers business leading the Lost to Christ, time is short, there is no time for bickering and hate speech.
The Lord has clearly led me here to talk some sense into you all he also seems to have placed a bit of soft spot in my heart for you all too, which is truly miraculous, I'm sure you will agree.
Written by Paul a Jew about the Jews to the Jews and the Gentiles
Written By Paul a Jew, about Moses, a Jew, about the Commandments for the Jews.
Written by an unknown Author (Possibly Paul) but definitely a Jew/Hebrew for the Jews/Hebrews. You may not eat pork but your spiritual meat is clearly taken out of a rotten dead carcass and you drink from a broken cistern.
I'm not here for "debates" I am here to speak truth from the oracles of God given the the Jew first and then the gentile and to spread the knowledge of the truth and the power unto salvation.
Some Jews believed in Christ has the Messiah most did not and have been blind unto this day. The Jew is no different to any other race who have rejected Christ. The WORLD is blinded and there will be and even greater strong delusion to come.
Anti Jewish rhetoric is from an anti-Christ spirit and it will repel people from the joy and the glad tiding of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. We must be about our Fathers business leading the Lost to Christ, time is short, there is no time for bickering and hate speech.
Judah is the root word of the word Jew. 
Esau and Jacob were both Jews as was Jesus Christ. However Jesus Christ was also God, who chose to come in Jewish form, I worship God not man.
The Lord will redeem His people again, Israel, heaven will be full of Jews but don't worry, you will be in hell.
Esau and Jacob were both Jews as was Jesus Christ. However Jesus Christ was also God, who chose to come in Jewish form, I worship God not man.
The Lord will redeem His people again, Israel, heaven will be full of Jews but don't worry, you will be in hell.
It was Jacob who deceived Issac not Essau. It was done for power and wealth led on by Esau's mother. Greed Envy Jealousy . Why else?
It was done for power and wealth led on by Esau's mother. Greed Envy Jealousy . Why else?
At the time of Christ there where only about 6000 Pharisees, This is whom Jesus was Speaking. He was not addressing the Hebrew/Israel/Jew
Acts 21:39 But Paul said, I am a man which am a Jew of Tarsus, a city in Cilicia, a citizen of no mean city: and, I beseech thee, suffer me to speak unto the people.
Acts 23:6 But when Paul perceived that the one part were Sadducees, and the other Pharisees, he cried out in the council, Men and brethren, I am a Pharisee, the son of a Pharisee: of the hope and resurrection of the dead I am called in question.
Phl 3:5 Circumcised the eighth day, of the stock of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, an Hebrew of the Hebrews; as touching the law, a Pharisee;
Now as you know I go by the bible, I'm not concerned with ones views or opinions on my bible, but these three scriptures ALL Paul, the greatest Christian that ever lived (to you lay false allegation of "infiltration" yes him, well he state that he is Israel/Hebrew/Jew/Tribe Of Benjamin/Pharisee and is proud of it.
So clearly, biblically speaking, A Jew is Hebrew of the nation of Israel. Okay? Moving on. Oh this would make Abraham a Jew also of course, and Christ
Acts 21:39 But Paul said, I am a man which am a Jew of Tarsus, a city in Cilicia, a citizen of no mean city: and, I beseech thee, suffer me to speak unto the people.
Acts 23:6 But when Paul perceived that the one part were Sadducees, and the other Pharisees, he cried out in the council, Men and brethren, I am a Pharisee, the son of a Pharisee: of the hope and resurrection of the dead I am called in question.
Phl 3:5 Circumcised the eighth day, of the stock of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, an Hebrew of the Hebrews; as touching the law, a Pharisee;
Now as you know I go by the bible, I'm not concerned with ones views or opinions on my bible, but these three scriptures ALL Paul, the greatest Christian that ever lived (to you lay false allegation of "infiltration" yes him, well he state that he is Israel/Hebrew/Jew/Tribe Of Benjamin/Pharisee and is proud of it.
So clearly, biblically speaking, A Jew is Hebrew of the nation of Israel. Okay? Moving on. Oh this would make Abraham a Jew also of course, and Christ
Judaism as a religion didn't exist until recently. Judaism is a cult religion it's not what ancient Israel practised and neither did the Pharisee's
The word is Ioudaios 2453
1) Jewish, belonging to the Jewish nation
2) Jewish as respects to birth, origin, religion
In other words, the biblical Jew is not Judaism. And clearly as Paul was from Tarsus and not Judah as you point out, clearly then term Jew (Ioudaios) doesn't mean from Judea, however people who lived in Judea where apparently referred to as Jews a well, but so what?. Christ did not practice or teach Judaism and nothing in the bible does either. The Old Testament is not Judaism, it is Christianity. The true biblical Jew is a Christian. Adam and Eve were Christian after the fall, they received forgiveness through the sacrifice of an Animal and the promise of Christ coming to defeat Satan.
Rightly or wrongly the term "Jew" is a well known interchangeable term for Hebrew and the people and the nation of Israel. I think we can get entwined in the practice of semantic gymnastics over this word. So much so that when we untangle ourselves, you and I, for the most part agree on many things. However I feel it is wrong to say that Ioudaios means the practice of Judaism because it means nothing of the sort. The religion of the ancient Hebrew/Jew was not Judaism. They where Worshipers of Yahweh just like you and I and they awaited their redeemer Messiah, they looked forward to Christ coming whilst we look back. God has always welcomed people of all nations into his family of faith.
The word is Ioudaios 2453
1) Jewish, belonging to the Jewish nation
2) Jewish as respects to birth, origin, religion
In other words, the biblical Jew is not Judaism. And clearly as Paul was from Tarsus and not Judah as you point out, clearly then term Jew (Ioudaios) doesn't mean from Judea, however people who lived in Judea where apparently referred to as Jews a well, but so what?. Christ did not practice or teach Judaism and nothing in the bible does either. The Old Testament is not Judaism, it is Christianity. The true biblical Jew is a Christian. Adam and Eve were Christian after the fall, they received forgiveness through the sacrifice of an Animal and the promise of Christ coming to defeat Satan.
Rightly or wrongly the term "Jew" is a well known interchangeable term for Hebrew and the people and the nation of Israel. I think we can get entwined in the practice of semantic gymnastics over this word. So much so that when we untangle ourselves, you and I, for the most part agree on many things. However I feel it is wrong to say that Ioudaios means the practice of Judaism because it means nothing of the sort. The religion of the ancient Hebrew/Jew was not Judaism. They where Worshipers of Yahweh just like you and I and they awaited their redeemer Messiah, they looked forward to Christ coming whilst we look back. God has always welcomed people of all nations into his family of faith.
The church AKA the Christian is not Israel, it never was. The Church was built on the Apostle Peter the first to recognise Christ as God in the flesh and believe, so I'm sorry you are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay off base with who you think Israel as far as scripture is concerned. Israle are NOT THE CHURCH and ISRALE have STILL not yet believed or recognised Christ as the Messiah yet. And further more YOU don't have a bible. I do and I know what it says in there coz I've read millions of times.
[/quote] WHY?
Gen 17:5 Neither shall thy name any more be called Abram, but thy name shall be Abraham; for a father of many nations have I made thee.
Abraham is the father of the Christian Faith not Judaism, you are aware the Bible AKA the 66 books is a christian document are you not? It belongs firmly in the grip of Christendom, no where else. It is our Word of God. The word of God is for the believer it is of no use to ANYONE ELSE. You can start fires with it's pages or wipe your bottom on them for all I care, but don't cut and paste it to back up you heresy because on my watch it ain't gonna wash.
Nation = Gowy (sound s bit like goyim doesn't it?
1) nation, people
a) nation, people
1) usually of non-Hebrew people
2) of descendants of Abraham
3) of Israel
[/quote] WHY?
Gen 17:5 Neither shall thy name any more be called Abram, but thy name shall be Abraham; for a father of many nations have I made thee.
Abraham is the father of the Christian Faith not Judaism, you are aware the Bible AKA the 66 books is a christian document are you not? It belongs firmly in the grip of Christendom, no where else. It is our Word of God. The word of God is for the believer it is of no use to ANYONE ELSE. You can start fires with it's pages or wipe your bottom on them for all I care, but don't cut and paste it to back up you heresy because on my watch it ain't gonna wash.
Nation = Gowy (sound s bit like goyim doesn't it?
1) nation, people
a) nation, people
1) usually of non-Hebrew people
2) of descendants of Abraham
3) of Israel
Wednesday, 21 November 2018
Catweasel, Cunctator, Gratis, Remo Williams debate: Which Bible?
Cunctator's response:
I am afraid that you have fallen victim to the gnostic lie by which Satan has been attempting to pervert the Word of God from the beginning. You will recall that in the book of Genesis is outlined the history of the fall of mankind. God had said:
But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die (Genesis 2:17).
Satan, shrewdly picking the 'correct' target from his point of view, aproached the weaker vessel (I Timothy 2:14; I Peter 3:7) and disputed this divine commandment. He spoke as he did to the first woman because he is the spirit of pride, rebellion and envy incarnate, and he cannot abide for others of God's creation to be obedient to our Creator - he wants us to worship him instead:
And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil. And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat. (Genesis 3:4-6)
This is the essence of gnosticism. It is an appeal to the senses - "when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes" - which masquerades as a desire for superior knowledge or enlightenment. It appeals to that side of our nature which is ever willing to reject what we know to be true and right for the sake of fleeting sensual pleasures. It leads ultimately to each person making himself a god who sets for himself at any given moment the standard of what is right and wrong rather than abiding by the immutable God-given standard of right and wrong which is implanted in each of us - as triune beings consisting of body, soul and spirit made in the image of God - at birth.
This tendency has been described thusly in the Jewish Encyclopedia article on Jewish Gnosticism:
"Jewish gnosticism unquestionably antedates Christianity, for Biblical exegesis had already reached an age of five hundred years by the first century C.E. Judaism had been in close contact with Babylonian-Persian ideas for at least that length of time, and for nearly as long a period with Hellenistic ideas. Magic, also, which, as will be shown further on, was a not unimportant part of the doctrines and manifestations of gnosticism, largely occupied Jewish thinkers. There is, in general, no circle of ideas to which elements of gnosticism have been traced, and with which the Jews were not acquainted. It is a noteworthy fact that heads of gnostic schools and founders of gnostic systems are designated as Jews by the Church Fathers. Some derive all heresies, including those of gnosticism, from Judaism (Hegesippus in Eusebius, "Hist. Eccl." iv. 22; comp. Harnack, "Dogmengesch." 3d ed. i. 232, note 1). It must furthermore be noted that Hebrew words and names of God provide the skeleton for several gnostic systems. Christians or Jews converted from paganism would have used as the foundation of their systems terms borrowed from the Greek or Syrian translations of the Bible. This fact proves at least that the principal elements of gnosticism were derived from Jewish speculation, while it does not preclude the possibility of new wine having been poured into old bottles."
The gnostics of the early centuries claimed to possess a secret oral tradition from Jesus himself, just as all the writings you reference above claim to be in on some secret known only to the adept. This is false, because contradicted by the doctrine of the sufficiency of scripture (2 Timothy 3:15-17 and Jude v3). There can be no "secret doctrine", no knowledge available only to the 'enlightened ones'. God has made available to us his full and complete revelation - "the faith which was once delivered unto the saints" according to the inspired prophet Jude - and if we are to be content with and obey that we shall live, just as Adam and Eve would have lived for ever in fellowship with their Creator had they obeyed God's commandment as to what not to eat in the garden, rather than allowing themselves to be turned away by the subtle incitements of the serpent.
The Baigent/Leigh/Dan Brown holy-grail-as-Jesus'-bloodline-and-additional-Merovingian-hocus-pocus is pure gnosticism by way of the Templars and their modern day successors the Freemasons, who of course recieved their knowledge from the usual source. This “secret doctrine” is in its popular literary and cinematic manifestations merely a watered down version of the hideous and truly Satanic doctrines which are revealed only to the true adepts of the cabala, such as Jewish rabbis and the illuminized 'Noahide' - yet more "secret doctrine" claptrap based on the lie that Noah transmitted a set of oral commandments that are binding on mankind even though they were not recorded in the Old Testament - masons of the 32nd and 33rd degree. No matter how seemingly powerful the latter, they are only 'Jews' on sufferance, and will be disposed of per the Protocols as soon as the plans of the synagogue of Satan are fully realized. As for the teeming masses who think The Da Vinci Code is "a good read that raises some important questions", they are unwittingly allowing themselves to be beguiled by the serpent just as Eve was.
Once we put our faith in "secret doctrines" in which we have been initiated because we are 'special' or 'chosen' we are become guilty of the same prideful conceit that was Satan's downfall. We also demonstrate therein that we lack faith in the Jesus who "hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness" (II Peter 1:3) and who informed his Jewish inquisitors that "I spake openly to the world; I ever taught in the synagogue, and in the temple, whither the Jews always resort; and in secret have I said nothing" (John 18:20).
Old Testament
Deuteronomy 19:15 teaches us that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word shall be established. This is quoted in the New Testament in Matthew 18:16 and II Corinthians 13:1. Which means that every Old Testament book that is subsequently quoted by another witness (Jesus and/or the inspired apostles and prophets in the New Testament) is thereby confirmed as the being the word of God. If we accept that Ezra and Nehemiah were originally one scroll, and thus the same book, then we have New Testament confirmation for every single Old Testament book but one: the book of Esther, which is obviously a later Jewish forgery.
And it is a forgery which bears the mark of its inspirer Satan on its forehead for it does not once mention or even allude to God - the only book in the whole Bible which does not do so. It also mandates a religious festival, Purim, which is clearly unauthorized because not sanctioned by the only authorized lawgiver before our Lord Jesus Christ, Moses. Little surprise then that the apostate Jews who celebrate this supposedly religious festival today do so in the most debauched way, making themselves blind drunk; screaming abuse at effigies both of the mythical Haman and those more recent Hamans of their global propaganda machine, Adolf Shicklegruber and Saddam Hussein; giving vent to their cannibalistic instincts by eating jam filled pastries known as Hamantaschen (Haman's ears); and so on. Purim is the Jewish Mardi Gras and occurs at the same time of year. No surprise then that there is no mention of it in the New Testament. Purim celebrates the bloodlust of the Jews and this is why so many cases of ritual murder in scores of different jurisdictions down through the centuries have been uncovered at the time of the year when this bacchanalia is 'celebrated'.
That a religious elite sufficiently degraded as to not even notice that there was nothing of spiritual value to be gleaned from the adventures of a courtesan of the Monica Lewinsky/Chandra Levy type, and sufficiently depraved as to not discern that genuine seekers after divine truth might take umbrage at this pagan-derived haggadic whimsy, tallies well with the spiritual poverty that Jesus discovered in the same perverts (Matthew 15:1-9) during His ministry.
All the deliverances of the people of Israel that we see throughout the Old Testament, for instance in the time of Moses, Aaron and Joshua, and later in the time of Elijah and Elisha, had come from relying on God, not by means of adventuresses exploiting pillow talk to manipulate non-believing Gentile rulers. The mere names of the principals of the tale, Mordecai (Babylonian god Marduk) and Esther (widely worshipped near-Eastern fertility goddess Ishtar/Astarte), and even the name of the villain of the piece (Haman - an Elamite deity) are compelling evidence that this book is of pagan origin and not inspired like the rest of Scripture. The revenge-slaughter of 75,000 at the end of the book that is in no way divinely ordained, the fact that the number of provinces in the Persian empire and many other historical details given in the book contradict information we have from the near-contemporaneous inspired prophetic book of Daniel, indicate how little store we should set by this book. But above all not one line of Esther has a single witness from any other book of Scripture to confirm it. Not one. Therefore it must be rejected as per the Scriptures cited above.
New Testament
The New Testament has only ever begun to be doubted by Christians since Hort and Westcott began to build on the work of the Higher Critics to challenge the authority of the text itself - the Textus Receptus or Received Text. These corrupt worldly-minded scholars latched on to the most corrupt manuscripts they could find, Codex Sinaiticus and Codex Vaticanus, neither of which had ever been in use or accepted by any considerable body of Christians - and both of which had been lying unused and unexplored for centuries in a Greek Orthodox monastery at Mount Sinai and the Vatican library respectively - in order to fashion a New Testament text that would accord with their gnostic and Judaizing temperaments. Both manuscripts are absolutely infested with ommissions and additions which make obvious the gnostic leanings of those followers of Valentinus, Simon Magus and other early gnostics who almost certainly concoted these forgeries with malice aforethought. They disagree with each other in numerous places and they disagree with the received text throughout. Certain tendencies such as constantly ommiting passages in which the full deity of Jesus is asserted clearly evince their Judaizing and gnostic tendency. Here are some links with more information about the work of Hort and Westcott:
http://www.deanburgonsociety.org/Critic ... bs2695.htm
http://www.deanburgonsociety.org/Critic ... hy_use.htm
http://www.deanburgonsociety.org/DeanBurgon/dbs2771.htm
Both of these men, though nominally Anglicans, had strong sympathies with the Roman Catholic church, which from the first has been little more than a corrupt storehouse of Jewish rituals and Babylonian pagan mysteries posing as the church of Christ.
http://watch.pair.com/mystery-babylon.html
To conclude, I believe that we have available to us today the full and complete revelation of God. But we should take heed to ensure that we are not taken in by the snares of Satan, who indeed has managed - for instance in the overwhelming majority of English translations whose NT text follows Westcott and Hort and descendants of it such as Nestle-Aland - to sow confusion. If we are wise and have the desire for the truth, we will uncover and avoid the lies and stick to the truth. If anyone has been persuaded by this Satan-inspired confusion into believing that their really are inconsistencies and discrepancies in the Bible, I would be very grateful if he or she could set them out in a list so I can tackle them one by one in subsequent posts.
Back to Cunctator:
Thank you for your kind comments. You have grasped the significance of my handle. I shall be responding to the points you have raised as I find time through the week. I am happy to make the effort because the spiritual questions you have raised are by far the most important issues that need to be discussed and decided upon on this forum and I believe it is incumbent on me as someone who worships a God and Saviour
Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth (I Timothy 2:4)
to set out what I believe to be true. Either there is a universal standard of authority through which this God has given us His full revelation of how we are to please Him, or we are all groping in the dark without hope of anything beyond the life "nasty, brutish and short" which the philosopher Hobbes described.
I hope to to demonstrate to you that, despite the determined demon-inspired efforts of legions across six millennia, we are not groping in the dark. And that we all have access to a God-given standard of authority which we can put our wholehearted trust in.
Some material on the apostate Roman church from one of the links I supplied:
http://watch.pair.com/mystery-babylon.html
ROMAN CATHOLICISM
Did the abovementioned Jewish “liturgical customs” which started in Rome somehow find their way into the Church at Rome? Were they little by little incorporated into its worship, which gradually developed into the Roman Catholic Mass? It may come as a surprise to many Catholics that the Catholic Encyclopedia officially defines the Catholic liturgy as a carryover from the Mosaic Law:
“...the word liturgy...is used for the public service of the temple...the function of the priests, the ritual service of the temple... So in Christian use liturgy meant the public official service of the Church, that corresponded to the official service of the Temple in the Old Law.”
After which we find a startling admission, viz., that the Mass was “a Christianized synagogue service” conducted by “learned elders”:
“The Eucharist was always celebrated at the end of a service of lessons, psalms, prayers, and preaching, which was itself merely a continuation of the service of the synagogue. So we have everywhere this double function; first a synagogue service Christianized, in which the holy books were read, psalms were sung, prayers said by the bishop in the name of all (the people answering ‘Amen’ in Hebrew, as had their Jewish forefathers), and homilies, explanations of what had been read, were made by the bishop or priests, just as they had been made in the synagogues by the learned men and elders (e. g., Luke, iv, 16-27)... The likeness between the prayers of thanksgiving (ix-x) and the Jewish forms for blessing bread and wine on the Sabbath (given in the ‘Berakoth’ treatise of the Talmud; cf. Sabatier, ‘La Didache’, Paris, 1885, p. 99) points obviously to derivation from them.”
Little wonder that one Jewish convert to Roman Catholicism made the astounding statement that entering the Catholic Church was not a “conversion” experience for him, but rather a continuation of Judaism. Roy Schoeman, the author of Salvation is from the Jews, confirms as well that the Mass is based on the Jewish ceremonial worship and that Catholic theology is based on the Old Testament!
“As a Jew coming to the Catholic Church, it was natural for me to find the relationship between Judaism and the Catholic Church among the most interesting things in the world. It was obvious to me that for a Jew to enter the Catholic Church wasn’t a matter of conversion at all, but was rather simply coming into the fullness of Judaism — into the form that Judaism took after the coming of the Jewish Messiah.
“Although Catholics are aware of this in principle, they often don’t think of the Catholic Church as the continuation of Judaism after the Messiah... It’s everywhere you look. It’s obviously in the Sacrifice of the Mass and the way the Mass is prefigured in Jewish ceremonial worship. It’s in the role that the Old Testament, Jewish Scripture have in Catholic theology and the structure of the Catholic Faith.” [Seattle Catholic]
A listing of parallels between Roman Catholicism and Judaism, which have analogues in the Eastern Orthodox Church as well, presented us with the startling prospect that Roman Catholicism may have been a Judaized form of Christianity from its inception. In the list of traditions below, links to the Catholic Encyclopedia show that the Roman Catholic Church justifies most of its practices by appealing to the Old Testament. Even in cases where the New Testament is cited as justification, these practices are not required under the New Covenant but have their basis in Judaism.
Priesthood (cf. Levitical priesthood/mediators between God and men)
Pope (cf. Jewish High Priest)
College of Cardinals (70) (cf. seventy elders of Moses/Deut.17:8)
Confession of sins to priest for forgiveness (cf. Lev.5:5)
Daily sacrifice of the Mass (cf. Daily burnt offering / Heb.10:11)
Altars for sacrifices
Altar vessels of gold and silver
Vestments for priests
Cardinals’ skullcap (cf. Jewish yarmulke)
Offertory (cf. Offerings)
Church buildings for worship (cf. Temple)
Liturgy (cf. service of the Temple)
Sunday obligation (cf. Sabbath observance)
Ecclesiastical Feasts (cf. Jewish feasts)
Scapular / Hairshirt (cf. Sackcloth)
Works-based salvation (cf. Mosaic Law)
Sacrament of infant baptism (cf. Rite of Circumcision / Talmud)
Wafer-only Communion (cf. Manna/Shew Bread)
Sacrament of Confirmation (cf. Jewish Bar/Bat Mitzvah)
Burning of candles and incense (cf. Exodus 30)
Holy water font (cf. The Laver / Exodus 40)
No salvation outside the (Catholic) Church (Gentiles must convert to Judaism to be saved)
The following Roman Catholic traditions were not part of the Mosaic Law but were adopted by the Israelites in their apostasy:
Traditions of men (Mark 7:6-13)
Vain repetitions (Lip service (Isa.29:13)
Veneration of saints (Idolatry/pagan gods)
Worship of Mary as Mother of God (Jews worshipped Queen of Heaven / Jer. 44)
Statues/images (images on the walls of Solomon’s Temple) (Ezek 8:10)
Demotion of Jesus to Co-Redeemer (cf. Jews’ denial of Jesus as Messiah)
Preoccupation with Christ’s death rather than resurrection (Jews’ denial of Jesus’ resurrection)
The above is only a partial catalog of Jewish traditions found in Roman Catholicism. The sacerdotal (priesthood) and daily sacrificial systems alone strongly implicate the Roman Catholic Church as, not only a front for apostate Judaism, but as a vehicle for converting Christians, without their knowledge, to the very religious system that rejected Jesus Christ. One commentary compares the Roman Catholic teaching on salvation to that preached in Judaism:
“The Catholic perspective on salvation is largely ‘judaized’ Christianity. In the days of the Apostles, many Jewish Christians believed that Christians had to follow all the requirements of the Mosaic Law, e.g., circumcision, the system of offerings, going to a priest to have sins forgiven, making sacrifices as atonement for sins, etc. A system that requires some type of ‘priest’ to act as an intercessor between the layperson and God is known as a sacerdotal system (from the Latin word sacerdote, meaning ‘priest’.)”
In view of the striking parallels between Roman Catholicism and Judaism, it becomes apparent that Roman Catholicism represents, to a remarkable degree, the triumph of the Judaizers. How did it happen that the doctrines, rites and traditions of Judaism crept into the Church at Rome?
Remo Williams joins:
Hello,
Please may I suggest the following:
http://thewayhomeorfacethefire.net
If you have questions, then this book will answer them for you (IF you let it - Matthew 18:3).
"It is not the Truth that needs to change in order for us to accept it. It is we that need to change, so that we can come to accept the Truth." - Unknown
Enter Gratis:
Douay comes from the Latin Vulgate, compiled by Gnostics at Alexandria Egypt; I'm not versed in it at all, but I believe it has the Apocrapha texts such as Macabbees etc to justify Easter and Christmas and removes Mk 16:9-20 among other changes. Mk 16:15-19 describe Jesus returning physically to the apostles concerning baptism being spiritual, speaking in tongues and healing. The Catholic Church places this firmly in the hands of the Pope as an Apostle descending from Constantine the Great, son of Druid princess Helena.
Like Sinaiticus, the Syrian or Aramaean version are Gnostic facsimiles which distort prophecy such as 2300 days (Dan 8) being turned into years and Daniels's 70 Weeks (490 Days) into the gobbedy gook most study bibles describe, with 483 years a 7yr Tribulation and Israel Dispensation beginning with the Rapture.
It's all garbage; 70 Weeks is 490 days; 2300 days is just that. 1260 days is just that. My best guess is we are really close to the start of the 1260 day Great Trib and after the "Strong Delusion" is brought to the world, the lies of the "Beast" will be even more believable. Jesuits started these lies and now we have a Jesuit Pope handing out Indulgences this week to his Social Media faithful. Purgatory? Are they really able to pull this lie off? I have a really bad feeling about this week.
Stuart monarchy returning to Britain as the Sun enters Leo on a Full Moon in Aquarius with Jupiter aligned with Mars? The lyrics to the Dawning of the Age of Aquarius is happening in real life today.
Does this help? Take Care Howard Ratcliffe
For about three hundred years early Christians where being martyred for sport in the Colosseum's of Rome, 5000 in one day at one event. When Satan realised killing Christians wasn't destroying the Church his next effort was to infiltrate it and counterfeit it. That happened well over 1700 years ago, in fact it was already happening in the time of the apostles with false gospels and false teachers abounding. Rome has been powerful for 1000's of years in one form or another. To deny this makes you intellectually immoral.
Genesis was dictated directly to Moses by God, not as a vision. As where most of the books other than of course many prophetic visions of course. never theless all dictated directly by God. What do you think scripture is man, made up fables by mere mortals??
The bible is not a collection from "many different sources", it's source is the Holy Spirit of the living God.
tarting the Foundation
Proving whether something is true or not is called apologetics. This word is derived from the Greek word “apologia,” which means “to defend.” The entire Clarifying Christianity site is filled with apologetics—proofs and explanations for many Christian-related issues. The focus of this page is the proof supporting the accuracy of the Bible. After all, if the Bible is not true or if it is filled with errors, Christianity would only be a “blind faith”—something people believe without any evidence to support it.
However, Christianity is not a blind faith. It is the only religion that can prove itself, and a main source of that proof is the Bible. Although it is becoming less common, there are still people who tell others that they follow Christianity “because it feels right” (or use wording like that). This is unfortunate, since there is a lot of evidence supporting Christianity. The existence of all that evidence is one reason we started this site. We want people to learn about the solid evidence that supports their faith, and have a place that collected that evidence so they can show it to others.
By the way, if you would like some reference materials that are a little more portable than a computer with an Internet connection, a book we recommend is Know Why You Believe by Paul Little. This book is available in larger bookstores and most Christian bookstores. Also, the Tucson Community Church recorded a seminar called “Knowing The Facts Behind The Faith.” It is available on DVD and VHS video (NTSC format). If you are interested in purchasing a copy, you can get one directly from the church that produces them at the Tucson Community Church website. They also handle international orders.
The Proof of Science
There is a great deal of scientific evidence that supports the Bible. Enough that we have a separate page to discuss this proof alone. If you would like to see our science page, click on this sentence.
The Proof of Prophecy
One of the strongest arguments for the accuracy of the Bible is its 100% accuracy in predicting the future. These future predictions are called “prophecies.” The Old Testament was written between approximately 1450 BC and 430 BC. During that time, many predictions of the future were recorded in the Bible by God’s prophets. Of the events that were to have taken place by now, every one happened just the way they predicted it would. No other “sacred writing” has such perfectly accurate predictions of the future.
One Type—The Messianic Prophecies
Of these prophecies, the most striking examples are the predictions about an “anointed one” (“Messiah” in Hebrew) who was to arrive in the future. About 4 BC, a miraculous event occurred—a boy named Jesus was born to a virgin named Mary. You can read His story in the book of Luke. Starting at age 30, Jesus fulfilled more and more of these prophecies written about the Messiah. His fulfillment of these prophecies was very spectacular: Jesus gave sight to the blind, made the lame walk, cured those who had leprosy, gave the deaf hearing, and raised people from the dead! These miracles and others were done many times in front of thousands of witnesses for three years. About 30 AD, Jesus was crucified (a prophecy) and died (a prophecy). Three days later he rose from the dead (another prophecy), after which He was seen by over 500 witnesses. Since these prophecies were written down at least 400 years before they happened, there is no doubt that the Bible’s writers were inspired supernaturally—by God. To examine these prophecies yourself, click on the link below.
The Messianic Prophecies
A Second Type—Fulfilled Prophecy Dealing With Nations
There are many prophecies that can be proven through archaeology, especially prophecy dealing with entire nations. Typically, when God declared judgment on a nation, He would send a prophet to announce to the citizens why He was judging them and what He was going to do to them if they continued their evil behavior. On occasion, God would also tell the citizens how He would reward them if they started doing what was right. The book of Jonah records a case where the Assyrians stopped doing what was evil as a result of Jonah’s short prophecy. This is what God wanted, and God did not punish them as a result of their change of heart. However, most often the people would jeer at God’s prophet and continue their bad behavior—later becoming recipients of the exact punishment that God threatened.
Like other prophecy recorded in the Bible, these predictions support the supernatural inspiration of the Bible. The prophecies recorded in the Bible came true in such a detailed way that they could not have been predicted by chance. Further, archaeologists have evidence that these prophecies were written down many years before they were fulfilled, proving that they were not falsified documents claiming to be prophecies that came true. (The discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls stopped the majority of that talk.) Although an entire web site could be filled with this information, we will provide one example—the foretelling of the destruction of Edom and its capital city of Petra.
Click here for an example of fulfilled prophecy dealing with nations
The Proof of Textual Evidence
Both the Old and New Testaments are strongly supported by manuscript evidence (the evidence of early hand written copies). The famous Dead Sea Scrolls are one example of the Old Testament evidence. These documents came from the “library” of a settlement founded at Qumran before 150 B.C. and abandoned about 68 A.D. Some of the manuscript copies were made during that period, and some were written earlier (third century BC) and brought to the settlement. Ignoring spelling-oriented (orthographic) changes and similar small differences, the Dead Sea Scrolls match the Hebrew text behind today’s Old Testament, in spite of the passage of over 2,000 years (where one would expect errors to creep in).
Over 20,000 known manuscripts document the New Testament text. This makes the New Testament the most reliable document of antiquity (a document written before the printing press). These manuscripts vary in size from a part of a page to an entire Bible (Old and New Testaments). The earliest New Testament manuscripts date from the second century (100-199) AD These manuscript copies were written in different languages by people of different nationalities, cultures, and backgrounds. In spite of all those differences between them, the New Testament texts all agree. (That is, those differences that we do observe between these hand written documents are occasional changes in the spelling of names or isolated cases of missing or changed words. Still, since we have so many copies, it is obvious to anyone but the hardened skeptic can that they all represent the same text.)
Note: Those minor differences that do exist between the Old and New Testament manuscripts are interesting for academic reasons. They are the topic of a future “in depth” Clarifying Christianity page. (It is currently about 10,000 words long and still under construction—stay tuned.)
The Proof of People Living at the Time of Christ
Special proof exists for the New Testament, since Christians were strongly persecuted by both the Jews and the Roman government. If the New Testament writings were false, these two groups would have produced a great deal of evidence to stop the growth of this “sect.” None exists. Further, the New Testament writings (before they were assembled into the “book” we call the New Testament) circulated during the lifetimes of thousands of people who had actually seen Jesus’ miracles and other historic events. No one ever refuted the New Testament writings as “fairy tales.”
The Proof of Historians
Secular history supports the Bible. For example, in The Antiquities of the Jews, book 18, chapter 3, paragraph 3 the famous historian Flavius Josephus writes:
“Now, there was about this time Jesus, a wise man, if it be lawful to call him a man, for he was a doer of wonderful works—a teacher of such men as receive the truth with pleasure. He drew over to him both many of the Jews, and many of the Gentiles. He was [the] Christ; and when Pilate, at the suggestion of the principal men amongst us, had condemned him to the cross, those that loved him at the first did not forsake him, for he appeared to them alive again the third day, as the divine prophets had foretold these and ten thousand other wonderful things concerning him; and the tribe of Christians, so named from him, are not extinct at this day.”
In 115 AD, P. Cornelius Tacitus wrote the following passage that refers to Jesus (called “Christus,” which means “The Messiah”) in book 15, chapter 44 of The Annals:
“Consequently, to get rid of the report, Nero fastened the guilt and inflicted the most exquisite tortures on a class hated for their abominations, called Christians by the populace. Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of one of our procurators, Pontius Pilatus, and a most mischievous superstition, thus checked for the moment, again broke out not only in Judaea, the first source of the evil, but even in Rome, where all things hideous and shameful from every part of the world find their centre and become popular. Accordingly, an arrest was first made of all who pleaded guilty; then, upon their information, an immense multitude was convicted, not so much of the crime of firing the city, as of hatred against mankind. Mockery of every sort was added to their deaths. Covered with the skins of beasts, they were torn by dogs and perished, or were nailed to crosses, or were doomed to the flames and burnt, to serve as a nightly illumination, when daylight had expired.”
http://www.clarifyingchristianity.com/b_proof.shtml
I am afraid that you have fallen victim to the gnostic lie by which Satan has been attempting to pervert the Word of God from the beginning. You will recall that in the book of Genesis is outlined the history of the fall of mankind. God had said:
But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die (Genesis 2:17).
Satan, shrewdly picking the 'correct' target from his point of view, aproached the weaker vessel (I Timothy 2:14; I Peter 3:7) and disputed this divine commandment. He spoke as he did to the first woman because he is the spirit of pride, rebellion and envy incarnate, and he cannot abide for others of God's creation to be obedient to our Creator - he wants us to worship him instead:
And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil. And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat. (Genesis 3:4-6)
This is the essence of gnosticism. It is an appeal to the senses - "when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes" - which masquerades as a desire for superior knowledge or enlightenment. It appeals to that side of our nature which is ever willing to reject what we know to be true and right for the sake of fleeting sensual pleasures. It leads ultimately to each person making himself a god who sets for himself at any given moment the standard of what is right and wrong rather than abiding by the immutable God-given standard of right and wrong which is implanted in each of us - as triune beings consisting of body, soul and spirit made in the image of God - at birth.
This tendency has been described thusly in the Jewish Encyclopedia article on Jewish Gnosticism:
"Jewish gnosticism unquestionably antedates Christianity, for Biblical exegesis had already reached an age of five hundred years by the first century C.E. Judaism had been in close contact with Babylonian-Persian ideas for at least that length of time, and for nearly as long a period with Hellenistic ideas. Magic, also, which, as will be shown further on, was a not unimportant part of the doctrines and manifestations of gnosticism, largely occupied Jewish thinkers. There is, in general, no circle of ideas to which elements of gnosticism have been traced, and with which the Jews were not acquainted. It is a noteworthy fact that heads of gnostic schools and founders of gnostic systems are designated as Jews by the Church Fathers. Some derive all heresies, including those of gnosticism, from Judaism (Hegesippus in Eusebius, "Hist. Eccl." iv. 22; comp. Harnack, "Dogmengesch." 3d ed. i. 232, note 1). It must furthermore be noted that Hebrew words and names of God provide the skeleton for several gnostic systems. Christians or Jews converted from paganism would have used as the foundation of their systems terms borrowed from the Greek or Syrian translations of the Bible. This fact proves at least that the principal elements of gnosticism were derived from Jewish speculation, while it does not preclude the possibility of new wine having been poured into old bottles."
The gnostics of the early centuries claimed to possess a secret oral tradition from Jesus himself, just as all the writings you reference above claim to be in on some secret known only to the adept. This is false, because contradicted by the doctrine of the sufficiency of scripture (2 Timothy 3:15-17 and Jude v3). There can be no "secret doctrine", no knowledge available only to the 'enlightened ones'. God has made available to us his full and complete revelation - "the faith which was once delivered unto the saints" according to the inspired prophet Jude - and if we are to be content with and obey that we shall live, just as Adam and Eve would have lived for ever in fellowship with their Creator had they obeyed God's commandment as to what not to eat in the garden, rather than allowing themselves to be turned away by the subtle incitements of the serpent.
The Baigent/Leigh/Dan Brown holy-grail-as-Jesus'-bloodline-and-additional-Merovingian-hocus-pocus is pure gnosticism by way of the Templars and their modern day successors the Freemasons, who of course recieved their knowledge from the usual source. This “secret doctrine” is in its popular literary and cinematic manifestations merely a watered down version of the hideous and truly Satanic doctrines which are revealed only to the true adepts of the cabala, such as Jewish rabbis and the illuminized 'Noahide' - yet more "secret doctrine" claptrap based on the lie that Noah transmitted a set of oral commandments that are binding on mankind even though they were not recorded in the Old Testament - masons of the 32nd and 33rd degree. No matter how seemingly powerful the latter, they are only 'Jews' on sufferance, and will be disposed of per the Protocols as soon as the plans of the synagogue of Satan are fully realized. As for the teeming masses who think The Da Vinci Code is "a good read that raises some important questions", they are unwittingly allowing themselves to be beguiled by the serpent just as Eve was.
Once we put our faith in "secret doctrines" in which we have been initiated because we are 'special' or 'chosen' we are become guilty of the same prideful conceit that was Satan's downfall. We also demonstrate therein that we lack faith in the Jesus who "hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness" (II Peter 1:3) and who informed his Jewish inquisitors that "I spake openly to the world; I ever taught in the synagogue, and in the temple, whither the Jews always resort; and in secret have I said nothing" (John 18:20).
Old Testament
Deuteronomy 19:15 teaches us that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word shall be established. This is quoted in the New Testament in Matthew 18:16 and II Corinthians 13:1. Which means that every Old Testament book that is subsequently quoted by another witness (Jesus and/or the inspired apostles and prophets in the New Testament) is thereby confirmed as the being the word of God. If we accept that Ezra and Nehemiah were originally one scroll, and thus the same book, then we have New Testament confirmation for every single Old Testament book but one: the book of Esther, which is obviously a later Jewish forgery.
And it is a forgery which bears the mark of its inspirer Satan on its forehead for it does not once mention or even allude to God - the only book in the whole Bible which does not do so. It also mandates a religious festival, Purim, which is clearly unauthorized because not sanctioned by the only authorized lawgiver before our Lord Jesus Christ, Moses. Little surprise then that the apostate Jews who celebrate this supposedly religious festival today do so in the most debauched way, making themselves blind drunk; screaming abuse at effigies both of the mythical Haman and those more recent Hamans of their global propaganda machine, Adolf Shicklegruber and Saddam Hussein; giving vent to their cannibalistic instincts by eating jam filled pastries known as Hamantaschen (Haman's ears); and so on. Purim is the Jewish Mardi Gras and occurs at the same time of year. No surprise then that there is no mention of it in the New Testament. Purim celebrates the bloodlust of the Jews and this is why so many cases of ritual murder in scores of different jurisdictions down through the centuries have been uncovered at the time of the year when this bacchanalia is 'celebrated'.
That a religious elite sufficiently degraded as to not even notice that there was nothing of spiritual value to be gleaned from the adventures of a courtesan of the Monica Lewinsky/Chandra Levy type, and sufficiently depraved as to not discern that genuine seekers after divine truth might take umbrage at this pagan-derived haggadic whimsy, tallies well with the spiritual poverty that Jesus discovered in the same perverts (Matthew 15:1-9) during His ministry.
All the deliverances of the people of Israel that we see throughout the Old Testament, for instance in the time of Moses, Aaron and Joshua, and later in the time of Elijah and Elisha, had come from relying on God, not by means of adventuresses exploiting pillow talk to manipulate non-believing Gentile rulers. The mere names of the principals of the tale, Mordecai (Babylonian god Marduk) and Esther (widely worshipped near-Eastern fertility goddess Ishtar/Astarte), and even the name of the villain of the piece (Haman - an Elamite deity) are compelling evidence that this book is of pagan origin and not inspired like the rest of Scripture. The revenge-slaughter of 75,000 at the end of the book that is in no way divinely ordained, the fact that the number of provinces in the Persian empire and many other historical details given in the book contradict information we have from the near-contemporaneous inspired prophetic book of Daniel, indicate how little store we should set by this book. But above all not one line of Esther has a single witness from any other book of Scripture to confirm it. Not one. Therefore it must be rejected as per the Scriptures cited above.
New Testament
The New Testament has only ever begun to be doubted by Christians since Hort and Westcott began to build on the work of the Higher Critics to challenge the authority of the text itself - the Textus Receptus or Received Text. These corrupt worldly-minded scholars latched on to the most corrupt manuscripts they could find, Codex Sinaiticus and Codex Vaticanus, neither of which had ever been in use or accepted by any considerable body of Christians - and both of which had been lying unused and unexplored for centuries in a Greek Orthodox monastery at Mount Sinai and the Vatican library respectively - in order to fashion a New Testament text that would accord with their gnostic and Judaizing temperaments. Both manuscripts are absolutely infested with ommissions and additions which make obvious the gnostic leanings of those followers of Valentinus, Simon Magus and other early gnostics who almost certainly concoted these forgeries with malice aforethought. They disagree with each other in numerous places and they disagree with the received text throughout. Certain tendencies such as constantly ommiting passages in which the full deity of Jesus is asserted clearly evince their Judaizing and gnostic tendency. Here are some links with more information about the work of Hort and Westcott:
http://www.deanburgonsociety.org/Critic ... bs2695.htm
http://www.deanburgonsociety.org/Critic ... hy_use.htm
http://www.deanburgonsociety.org/DeanBurgon/dbs2771.htm
Both of these men, though nominally Anglicans, had strong sympathies with the Roman Catholic church, which from the first has been little more than a corrupt storehouse of Jewish rituals and Babylonian pagan mysteries posing as the church of Christ.
http://watch.pair.com/mystery-babylon.html
To conclude, I believe that we have available to us today the full and complete revelation of God. But we should take heed to ensure that we are not taken in by the snares of Satan, who indeed has managed - for instance in the overwhelming majority of English translations whose NT text follows Westcott and Hort and descendants of it such as Nestle-Aland - to sow confusion. If we are wise and have the desire for the truth, we will uncover and avoid the lies and stick to the truth. If anyone has been persuaded by this Satan-inspired confusion into believing that their really are inconsistencies and discrepancies in the Bible, I would be very grateful if he or she could set them out in a list so I can tackle them one by one in subsequent posts.
Back to Cunctator:
Thank you for your kind comments. You have grasped the significance of my handle. I shall be responding to the points you have raised as I find time through the week. I am happy to make the effort because the spiritual questions you have raised are by far the most important issues that need to be discussed and decided upon on this forum and I believe it is incumbent on me as someone who worships a God and Saviour
Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth (I Timothy 2:4)
to set out what I believe to be true. Either there is a universal standard of authority through which this God has given us His full revelation of how we are to please Him, or we are all groping in the dark without hope of anything beyond the life "nasty, brutish and short" which the philosopher Hobbes described.
I hope to to demonstrate to you that, despite the determined demon-inspired efforts of legions across six millennia, we are not groping in the dark. And that we all have access to a God-given standard of authority which we can put our wholehearted trust in.
Some material on the apostate Roman church from one of the links I supplied:
http://watch.pair.com/mystery-babylon.html
ROMAN CATHOLICISM
Did the abovementioned Jewish “liturgical customs” which started in Rome somehow find their way into the Church at Rome? Were they little by little incorporated into its worship, which gradually developed into the Roman Catholic Mass? It may come as a surprise to many Catholics that the Catholic Encyclopedia officially defines the Catholic liturgy as a carryover from the Mosaic Law:
“...the word liturgy...is used for the public service of the temple...the function of the priests, the ritual service of the temple... So in Christian use liturgy meant the public official service of the Church, that corresponded to the official service of the Temple in the Old Law.”
After which we find a startling admission, viz., that the Mass was “a Christianized synagogue service” conducted by “learned elders”:
“The Eucharist was always celebrated at the end of a service of lessons, psalms, prayers, and preaching, which was itself merely a continuation of the service of the synagogue. So we have everywhere this double function; first a synagogue service Christianized, in which the holy books were read, psalms were sung, prayers said by the bishop in the name of all (the people answering ‘Amen’ in Hebrew, as had their Jewish forefathers), and homilies, explanations of what had been read, were made by the bishop or priests, just as they had been made in the synagogues by the learned men and elders (e. g., Luke, iv, 16-27)... The likeness between the prayers of thanksgiving (ix-x) and the Jewish forms for blessing bread and wine on the Sabbath (given in the ‘Berakoth’ treatise of the Talmud; cf. Sabatier, ‘La Didache’, Paris, 1885, p. 99) points obviously to derivation from them.”
Little wonder that one Jewish convert to Roman Catholicism made the astounding statement that entering the Catholic Church was not a “conversion” experience for him, but rather a continuation of Judaism. Roy Schoeman, the author of Salvation is from the Jews, confirms as well that the Mass is based on the Jewish ceremonial worship and that Catholic theology is based on the Old Testament!
“As a Jew coming to the Catholic Church, it was natural for me to find the relationship between Judaism and the Catholic Church among the most interesting things in the world. It was obvious to me that for a Jew to enter the Catholic Church wasn’t a matter of conversion at all, but was rather simply coming into the fullness of Judaism — into the form that Judaism took after the coming of the Jewish Messiah.
“Although Catholics are aware of this in principle, they often don’t think of the Catholic Church as the continuation of Judaism after the Messiah... It’s everywhere you look. It’s obviously in the Sacrifice of the Mass and the way the Mass is prefigured in Jewish ceremonial worship. It’s in the role that the Old Testament, Jewish Scripture have in Catholic theology and the structure of the Catholic Faith.” [Seattle Catholic]
A listing of parallels between Roman Catholicism and Judaism, which have analogues in the Eastern Orthodox Church as well, presented us with the startling prospect that Roman Catholicism may have been a Judaized form of Christianity from its inception. In the list of traditions below, links to the Catholic Encyclopedia show that the Roman Catholic Church justifies most of its practices by appealing to the Old Testament. Even in cases where the New Testament is cited as justification, these practices are not required under the New Covenant but have their basis in Judaism.
Priesthood (cf. Levitical priesthood/mediators between God and men)
Pope (cf. Jewish High Priest)
College of Cardinals (70) (cf. seventy elders of Moses/Deut.17:8)
Confession of sins to priest for forgiveness (cf. Lev.5:5)
Daily sacrifice of the Mass (cf. Daily burnt offering / Heb.10:11)
Altars for sacrifices
Altar vessels of gold and silver
Vestments for priests
Cardinals’ skullcap (cf. Jewish yarmulke)
Offertory (cf. Offerings)
Church buildings for worship (cf. Temple)
Liturgy (cf. service of the Temple)
Sunday obligation (cf. Sabbath observance)
Ecclesiastical Feasts (cf. Jewish feasts)
Scapular / Hairshirt (cf. Sackcloth)
Works-based salvation (cf. Mosaic Law)
Sacrament of infant baptism (cf. Rite of Circumcision / Talmud)
Wafer-only Communion (cf. Manna/Shew Bread)
Sacrament of Confirmation (cf. Jewish Bar/Bat Mitzvah)
Burning of candles and incense (cf. Exodus 30)
Holy water font (cf. The Laver / Exodus 40)
No salvation outside the (Catholic) Church (Gentiles must convert to Judaism to be saved)
The following Roman Catholic traditions were not part of the Mosaic Law but were adopted by the Israelites in their apostasy:
Traditions of men (Mark 7:6-13)
Vain repetitions (Lip service (Isa.29:13)
Veneration of saints (Idolatry/pagan gods)
Worship of Mary as Mother of God (Jews worshipped Queen of Heaven / Jer. 44)
Statues/images (images on the walls of Solomon’s Temple) (Ezek 8:10)
Demotion of Jesus to Co-Redeemer (cf. Jews’ denial of Jesus as Messiah)
Preoccupation with Christ’s death rather than resurrection (Jews’ denial of Jesus’ resurrection)
The above is only a partial catalog of Jewish traditions found in Roman Catholicism. The sacerdotal (priesthood) and daily sacrificial systems alone strongly implicate the Roman Catholic Church as, not only a front for apostate Judaism, but as a vehicle for converting Christians, without their knowledge, to the very religious system that rejected Jesus Christ. One commentary compares the Roman Catholic teaching on salvation to that preached in Judaism:
“The Catholic perspective on salvation is largely ‘judaized’ Christianity. In the days of the Apostles, many Jewish Christians believed that Christians had to follow all the requirements of the Mosaic Law, e.g., circumcision, the system of offerings, going to a priest to have sins forgiven, making sacrifices as atonement for sins, etc. A system that requires some type of ‘priest’ to act as an intercessor between the layperson and God is known as a sacerdotal system (from the Latin word sacerdote, meaning ‘priest’.)”
In view of the striking parallels between Roman Catholicism and Judaism, it becomes apparent that Roman Catholicism represents, to a remarkable degree, the triumph of the Judaizers. How did it happen that the doctrines, rites and traditions of Judaism crept into the Church at Rome?
Remo Williams joins:
Hello,
Please may I suggest the following:
http://thewayhomeorfacethefire.net
If you have questions, then this book will answer them for you (IF you let it - Matthew 18:3).
"It is not the Truth that needs to change in order for us to accept it. It is we that need to change, so that we can come to accept the Truth." - Unknown
Enter Gratis:
Douay comes from the Latin Vulgate, compiled by Gnostics at Alexandria Egypt; I'm not versed in it at all, but I believe it has the Apocrapha texts such as Macabbees etc to justify Easter and Christmas and removes Mk 16:9-20 among other changes. Mk 16:15-19 describe Jesus returning physically to the apostles concerning baptism being spiritual, speaking in tongues and healing. The Catholic Church places this firmly in the hands of the Pope as an Apostle descending from Constantine the Great, son of Druid princess Helena.
Like Sinaiticus, the Syrian or Aramaean version are Gnostic facsimiles which distort prophecy such as 2300 days (Dan 8) being turned into years and Daniels's 70 Weeks (490 Days) into the gobbedy gook most study bibles describe, with 483 years a 7yr Tribulation and Israel Dispensation beginning with the Rapture.
It's all garbage; 70 Weeks is 490 days; 2300 days is just that. 1260 days is just that. My best guess is we are really close to the start of the 1260 day Great Trib and after the "Strong Delusion" is brought to the world, the lies of the "Beast" will be even more believable. Jesuits started these lies and now we have a Jesuit Pope handing out Indulgences this week to his Social Media faithful. Purgatory? Are they really able to pull this lie off? I have a really bad feeling about this week.
Stuart monarchy returning to Britain as the Sun enters Leo on a Full Moon in Aquarius with Jupiter aligned with Mars? The lyrics to the Dawning of the Age of Aquarius is happening in real life today.
Does this help? Take Care Howard Ratcliffe
For about three hundred years early Christians where being martyred for sport in the Colosseum's of Rome, 5000 in one day at one event. When Satan realised killing Christians wasn't destroying the Church his next effort was to infiltrate it and counterfeit it. That happened well over 1700 years ago, in fact it was already happening in the time of the apostles with false gospels and false teachers abounding. Rome has been powerful for 1000's of years in one form or another. To deny this makes you intellectually immoral.
Genesis was dictated directly to Moses by God, not as a vision. As where most of the books other than of course many prophetic visions of course. never theless all dictated directly by God. What do you think scripture is man, made up fables by mere mortals??
The bible is not a collection from "many different sources", it's source is the Holy Spirit of the living God.
tarting the Foundation
Proving whether something is true or not is called apologetics. This word is derived from the Greek word “apologia,” which means “to defend.” The entire Clarifying Christianity site is filled with apologetics—proofs and explanations for many Christian-related issues. The focus of this page is the proof supporting the accuracy of the Bible. After all, if the Bible is not true or if it is filled with errors, Christianity would only be a “blind faith”—something people believe without any evidence to support it.
However, Christianity is not a blind faith. It is the only religion that can prove itself, and a main source of that proof is the Bible. Although it is becoming less common, there are still people who tell others that they follow Christianity “because it feels right” (or use wording like that). This is unfortunate, since there is a lot of evidence supporting Christianity. The existence of all that evidence is one reason we started this site. We want people to learn about the solid evidence that supports their faith, and have a place that collected that evidence so they can show it to others.
By the way, if you would like some reference materials that are a little more portable than a computer with an Internet connection, a book we recommend is Know Why You Believe by Paul Little. This book is available in larger bookstores and most Christian bookstores. Also, the Tucson Community Church recorded a seminar called “Knowing The Facts Behind The Faith.” It is available on DVD and VHS video (NTSC format). If you are interested in purchasing a copy, you can get one directly from the church that produces them at the Tucson Community Church website. They also handle international orders.
The Proof of Science
There is a great deal of scientific evidence that supports the Bible. Enough that we have a separate page to discuss this proof alone. If you would like to see our science page, click on this sentence.
The Proof of Prophecy
One of the strongest arguments for the accuracy of the Bible is its 100% accuracy in predicting the future. These future predictions are called “prophecies.” The Old Testament was written between approximately 1450 BC and 430 BC. During that time, many predictions of the future were recorded in the Bible by God’s prophets. Of the events that were to have taken place by now, every one happened just the way they predicted it would. No other “sacred writing” has such perfectly accurate predictions of the future.
One Type—The Messianic Prophecies
Of these prophecies, the most striking examples are the predictions about an “anointed one” (“Messiah” in Hebrew) who was to arrive in the future. About 4 BC, a miraculous event occurred—a boy named Jesus was born to a virgin named Mary. You can read His story in the book of Luke. Starting at age 30, Jesus fulfilled more and more of these prophecies written about the Messiah. His fulfillment of these prophecies was very spectacular: Jesus gave sight to the blind, made the lame walk, cured those who had leprosy, gave the deaf hearing, and raised people from the dead! These miracles and others were done many times in front of thousands of witnesses for three years. About 30 AD, Jesus was crucified (a prophecy) and died (a prophecy). Three days later he rose from the dead (another prophecy), after which He was seen by over 500 witnesses. Since these prophecies were written down at least 400 years before they happened, there is no doubt that the Bible’s writers were inspired supernaturally—by God. To examine these prophecies yourself, click on the link below.
The Messianic Prophecies
A Second Type—Fulfilled Prophecy Dealing With Nations
There are many prophecies that can be proven through archaeology, especially prophecy dealing with entire nations. Typically, when God declared judgment on a nation, He would send a prophet to announce to the citizens why He was judging them and what He was going to do to them if they continued their evil behavior. On occasion, God would also tell the citizens how He would reward them if they started doing what was right. The book of Jonah records a case where the Assyrians stopped doing what was evil as a result of Jonah’s short prophecy. This is what God wanted, and God did not punish them as a result of their change of heart. However, most often the people would jeer at God’s prophet and continue their bad behavior—later becoming recipients of the exact punishment that God threatened.
Like other prophecy recorded in the Bible, these predictions support the supernatural inspiration of the Bible. The prophecies recorded in the Bible came true in such a detailed way that they could not have been predicted by chance. Further, archaeologists have evidence that these prophecies were written down many years before they were fulfilled, proving that they were not falsified documents claiming to be prophecies that came true. (The discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls stopped the majority of that talk.) Although an entire web site could be filled with this information, we will provide one example—the foretelling of the destruction of Edom and its capital city of Petra.
Click here for an example of fulfilled prophecy dealing with nations
The Proof of Textual Evidence
Both the Old and New Testaments are strongly supported by manuscript evidence (the evidence of early hand written copies). The famous Dead Sea Scrolls are one example of the Old Testament evidence. These documents came from the “library” of a settlement founded at Qumran before 150 B.C. and abandoned about 68 A.D. Some of the manuscript copies were made during that period, and some were written earlier (third century BC) and brought to the settlement. Ignoring spelling-oriented (orthographic) changes and similar small differences, the Dead Sea Scrolls match the Hebrew text behind today’s Old Testament, in spite of the passage of over 2,000 years (where one would expect errors to creep in).
Over 20,000 known manuscripts document the New Testament text. This makes the New Testament the most reliable document of antiquity (a document written before the printing press). These manuscripts vary in size from a part of a page to an entire Bible (Old and New Testaments). The earliest New Testament manuscripts date from the second century (100-199) AD These manuscript copies were written in different languages by people of different nationalities, cultures, and backgrounds. In spite of all those differences between them, the New Testament texts all agree. (That is, those differences that we do observe between these hand written documents are occasional changes in the spelling of names or isolated cases of missing or changed words. Still, since we have so many copies, it is obvious to anyone but the hardened skeptic can that they all represent the same text.)
Note: Those minor differences that do exist between the Old and New Testament manuscripts are interesting for academic reasons. They are the topic of a future “in depth” Clarifying Christianity page. (It is currently about 10,000 words long and still under construction—stay tuned.)
The Proof of People Living at the Time of Christ
Special proof exists for the New Testament, since Christians were strongly persecuted by both the Jews and the Roman government. If the New Testament writings were false, these two groups would have produced a great deal of evidence to stop the growth of this “sect.” None exists. Further, the New Testament writings (before they were assembled into the “book” we call the New Testament) circulated during the lifetimes of thousands of people who had actually seen Jesus’ miracles and other historic events. No one ever refuted the New Testament writings as “fairy tales.”
The Proof of Historians
Secular history supports the Bible. For example, in The Antiquities of the Jews, book 18, chapter 3, paragraph 3 the famous historian Flavius Josephus writes:
“Now, there was about this time Jesus, a wise man, if it be lawful to call him a man, for he was a doer of wonderful works—a teacher of such men as receive the truth with pleasure. He drew over to him both many of the Jews, and many of the Gentiles. He was [the] Christ; and when Pilate, at the suggestion of the principal men amongst us, had condemned him to the cross, those that loved him at the first did not forsake him, for he appeared to them alive again the third day, as the divine prophets had foretold these and ten thousand other wonderful things concerning him; and the tribe of Christians, so named from him, are not extinct at this day.”
In 115 AD, P. Cornelius Tacitus wrote the following passage that refers to Jesus (called “Christus,” which means “The Messiah”) in book 15, chapter 44 of The Annals:
“Consequently, to get rid of the report, Nero fastened the guilt and inflicted the most exquisite tortures on a class hated for their abominations, called Christians by the populace. Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of one of our procurators, Pontius Pilatus, and a most mischievous superstition, thus checked for the moment, again broke out not only in Judaea, the first source of the evil, but even in Rome, where all things hideous and shameful from every part of the world find their centre and become popular. Accordingly, an arrest was first made of all who pleaded guilty; then, upon their information, an immense multitude was convicted, not so much of the crime of firing the city, as of hatred against mankind. Mockery of every sort was added to their deaths. Covered with the skins of beasts, they were torn by dogs and perished, or were nailed to crosses, or were doomed to the flames and burnt, to serve as a nightly illumination, when daylight had expired.”
http://www.clarifyingchristianity.com/b_proof.shtml
Tuesday, 20 November 2018
Gratis: Correcting Christian Identity thesis about the white race
The Key to Adam and Eve are the Words "Created" (Barking) and "Formed" (Mad)
They were formed as a separate "White" Adamite Eloheem Race out of white play doh which could blush and we know black play doh cant blush.
Flesh Bodies for Yahoo's Elect
This can be carried over to Gen 1:1
And Gen 1:2
The Earth had already been Created (Out of Silly Putty)
There had been a First Earth Age between 1-2 when we were in Heaven with Yahoo in Lycra Tights.
The Light of the World Rev 21:23
There had been an Insurrection when Yahoo was mounted by Satan
Yahoo had taken one for the team and then Destroyed the Earth
..............was without Form and Void
Gen 1:14-18.............Lights in the Firmament
Gen 1:28 .................Replenish the Earth
You do not replenish something that had at one Time not already Existed
We are in the Second earth Age now
And awaiting the Day of Yahoo and the New Orleans Anglo Saxon Pipe Band
The Knowledge of Power forum will be taken Down and Yahoo's Eloheem Seed Sealed ) eeeeeewwwwwwwww!!
The Doors closed (with tissue paper)
There will be No More TV
Which Piss's every one off
The Third Earth Age - To Be Continued
Flesh Bodies for Yahoo's Elect
This can be carried over to Gen 1:1
And Gen 1:2
The Earth had already been Created (Out of Silly Putty)
There had been a First Earth Age between 1-2 when we were in Heaven with Yahoo in Lycra Tights.
The Light of the World Rev 21:23
There had been an Insurrection when Yahoo was mounted by Satan
Yahoo had taken one for the team and then Destroyed the Earth
..............was without Form and Void
Gen 1:14-18.............Lights in the Firmament
Gen 1:28 .................Replenish the Earth
You do not replenish something that had at one Time not already Existed
We are in the Second earth Age now
And awaiting the Day of Yahoo and the New Orleans Anglo Saxon Pipe Band
The Knowledge of Power forum will be taken Down and Yahoo's Eloheem Seed Sealed ) eeeeeewwwwwwwww!!
The Doors closed (with tissue paper)
There will be No More TV
Which Piss's every one off
The Third Earth Age - To Be Continued
Monday, 19 November 2018
Catweasel: The Sound of Trumpets Crush the Telmudic Reptile
Gratis did you get a good shine on that Pulpit?
What Lies have you learn't this week?
Hows everything at the Baptist Church anyway?
The King James Bible and the Baptist Church
A lethal Combination
The King James Bible is a corruption from Genesis to the Flood to the New Testament
And you have the Audacity to say it is the Word of God?
What God?
God of the Golden Calf?
Which your Judeo Christian Churchianity Corporate Enterprises Worship?
There is a whole Pantheon of God's
But only one Yahweh
My Father in Heaven
Little Boys is not all King James Diddled
"The Most High and Mighty Prince"
In fact I'm going to put King (Title) James under the Microscope
His Bible and his Self are Reflections of one another
Counterfeit misrepresentations of the Truth
You will know them by the Fruit that they Produce
King James was a Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil
A Dead Tree
Which produced no Fruit or Bad Fruit
And attempted like all false Papal Religions to lead men away from Yahweh
To prevent the awakening of their Spirituality and Racial Identity
For this he stands Condemned
http://ezekiel31army.blogspot.com/
What Lies have you learn't this week?
Hows everything at the Baptist Church anyway?
The King James Bible and the Baptist Church
A lethal Combination
The King James Bible is a corruption from Genesis to the Flood to the New Testament
And you have the Audacity to say it is the Word of God?
What God?
God of the Golden Calf?
Which your Judeo Christian Churchianity Corporate Enterprises Worship?
There is a whole Pantheon of God's
But only one Yahweh
My Father in Heaven
Little Boys is not all King James Diddled
"The Most High and Mighty Prince"
In fact I'm going to put King (Title) James under the Microscope
His Bible and his Self are Reflections of one another
Counterfeit misrepresentations of the Truth
You will know them by the Fruit that they Produce
King James was a Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil
A Dead Tree
Which produced no Fruit or Bad Fruit
And attempted like all false Papal Religions to lead men away from Yahweh
To prevent the awakening of their Spirituality and Racial Identity
For this he stands Condemned
http://ezekiel31army.blogspot.com/
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